OTTENBERG: When you were doing Chicago, did you learn the Fosse moves from a master? It’s not rote, it’s living and breathing. But that’s where I learned to be present in the imperfection, and what you’re talking about is the humanity of it all. Some nights you’re hitting all your steps, and some nights you’re tired. You’re out there singing over an orchestra with no help. JAYNE: The perfection is the imperfection. But then when you see them onstage, even if it’s not perfect, the people and the energy make you realize the perfection. OTTENBERG: Getting costumes together for a tour is such hell. JAYNE: That’s why everybody likes to perform for an audience. Even sometimes during sex, I’ll drift off, but being onstage I’m present. I’m not thinking of something else, my mind doesn’t drift. It’s the only time I’m 100 percent present. I wish everybody could feel that exchange between performer and audience because it’s very powerful. And when the lights go down and the music starts and they see you, there’s nothing like it. JAYNE: The process is always good, but there’s nothing like an audience because that’s when all of that rehearsal, the preparation, costumes, hair, makeup, all come together. OTTENBERG: What’s the funnest thing about doing something like this Vegas show? Doing it for the fans, or getting ready? And I’ve struggled hard, especially these last couple years, to get to that good place. I’m at a place in my life where I’m like, “Fuck everybody.” I’m very confident in my own skin. You’re supposed to be a little rebellious, a little over the line.
JAYNE: Hello! Why not? If you’re going to make art safely, you’re not making art. That today is you coming in pink sweatpants and then taking it all off and only putting on bangles. But then when she comes out, she looks like a boy. OTTENBERG: He’s doing all the moves, and they’re twins at the end. What’s interesting-speaking of that video-is how queer it was. There’s an unauthorized 800-page biography of her that’s coming out and we’re doing something on it in this issue. I felt like I was at Show World on 42nd Street. It was the fishnets, it was the peep show. JAYNE: The other video that really sticks out to me is “Open Your Heart.” With her belt and her high-waisted pants. She had that “Italians do it better” t-shirt on. I was like, “Oh, she just reinvented her shit to stay winning.” That stayed with me. I wasn’t even watching the video, I was watching Entertainment Tonight, but I got it. I remember the thrill of seeing the blonde hair, the bustier, no jewelry.
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OTTENBERG: Entertainment Tonight comes on this really fuzzy little TV and they’re talking about the “Papa Don’t Preach” video. It’s summer 1986 and I’m at the beach in Nantucket and they have no cable there. She sat on a boombox on The Virgin Tour and said, “This is my box.” I didn’t put it together until later that she was talking about her vagina. OTTENBERG: Is there one particular gag that stays with you forever? JAYNE: I have always been influenced by her. JAYNE: And masturbation, and singing in the church. JAYNE:There was so much Catholic controversy around Blond Ambition. I was 14 and my siblings were like 10 and 11. They said it was really controversial, but they felt like we needed to go. OTTENBERG: The best thing my parents ever did was take me and my siblings to Blond Ambition. JAYNE: I was a musical theater kid, and the thing I loved most was seeing a woman marrying musical theater concepts with pop music. MEL OTTENBERG: Okay, so wait, what were you saying?ĮRIKA JAYNE: The first concert I ever went to-I had to be in seventh or eighth grade-was The Virgin Tour. High points of the discussion include: boob tape, Fosse moves, falling down, and letting go.
The showgirl turned star of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hillsis here to promote her upcoming all-singing, all-dancing Las Vegas residency, and our editor-in-chief has questions. Erika Jayne wears Earrings Jennifer Fisher.
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